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		<title>By: jan g</title>
		<link>http://conversationalreading.com/lorrie-moores-sad-decline/#comment-4422</link>
		<dc:creator>jan g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 03:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just...and I mean just finished the novel and boy was it a dissapointment. I live in Milwaukee and just had to go to Madison for two days and while there I kept thinking about what a really great town Madison is. The novel was so poorly edited that I wanted to send her an email offering to edit her next effort.  The purple prose and sardonic quips by the narrator...and all the excamation points!!!!How did a writing teacher let those get so out of control.
Her parents were so weird, her relationship with her brother was not developed enough and the couple she worked for were uber creeps. I was relieved the baby was out of the mess...and I was relieved I got out as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just&#8230;and I mean just finished the novel and boy was it a dissapointment. I live in Milwaukee and just had to go to Madison for two days and while there I kept thinking about what a really great town Madison is. The novel was so poorly edited that I wanted to send her an email offering to edit her next effort.  The purple prose and sardonic quips by the narrator&#8230;and all the excamation points!!!!How did a writing teacher let those get so out of control.<br />
Her parents were so weird, her relationship with her brother was not developed enough and the couple she worked for were uber creeps. I was relieved the baby was out of the mess&#8230;and I was relieved I got out as well.</p>
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		<title>By: bark &#187; Still Life</title>
		<link>http://conversationalreading.com/lorrie-moores-sad-decline/#comment-4421</link>
		<dc:creator>bark &#187; Still Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have a knot in my stomach.  I&#8217;ve just been to conversationalreading.com, after Googling one of my favorite authors, Lorrie Moore. I read a conversation entitled, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have a knot in my stomach.  I&#8217;ve just been to conversationalreading.com, after Googling one of my favorite authors, Lorrie Moore. I read a conversation entitled, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rose S</title>
		<link>http://conversationalreading.com/lorrie-moores-sad-decline/#comment-4420</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 02:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, well, I didn&#039;t much like A Gate At the Stairs, but I read it quickly unable to put it down anyway. I think this was because a) I really loved Anagrams, Birds of America, and Who Will Run the Frog Hospital?, and b) because I wanted something to HAPPEN! I felt that I related to Tassie because I was around her age at that time, but who lives in that isolated world? Who goes around not knowing or interacting with anyone? I couldn&#039;t believe how bleak it was and I can get down with bleak, believe me. Also, the plot was a wandering stream that had no climax besides the series of disappointments and loss (or the strange scene in the coffin). Some joy would have helped. The scenes with Murph were the best and most real in the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, well, I didn&#8217;t much like A Gate At the Stairs, but I read it quickly unable to put it down anyway. I think this was because a) I really loved Anagrams, Birds of America, and Who Will Run the Frog Hospital?, and b) because I wanted something to HAPPEN! I felt that I related to Tassie because I was around her age at that time, but who lives in that isolated world? Who goes around not knowing or interacting with anyone? I couldn&#8217;t believe how bleak it was and I can get down with bleak, believe me. Also, the plot was a wandering stream that had no climax besides the series of disappointments and loss (or the strange scene in the coffin). Some joy would have helped. The scenes with Murph were the best and most real in the book.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen C</title>
		<link>http://conversationalreading.com/lorrie-moores-sad-decline/#comment-4419</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am currently reading A Gate at the Stairs and somewhat agree with this critique.  It is not as good as some of her earlier short stories.  In general, I find her writing to be lacking something in terms of plot and character development, but I really like the way she describes things and the random bursts of humor.  I definitely laugh out loud at times when reading Moore&#039;s work, and that is enough incentive for me I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently reading A Gate at the Stairs and somewhat agree with this critique.  It is not as good as some of her earlier short stories.  In general, I find her writing to be lacking something in terms of plot and character development, but I really like the way she describes things and the random bursts of humor.  I definitely laugh out loud at times when reading Moore&#8217;s work, and that is enough incentive for me I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Dorell</title>
		<link>http://conversationalreading.com/lorrie-moores-sad-decline/#comment-4418</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Dorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 13:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction: A version of &quot;Real Estate&quot; appeared in &quot;The New Yorker&quot; just as &quot;Birds of America&quot; was being published.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: A version of &#8220;Real Estate&#8221; appeared in &#8220;The New Yorker&#8221; just as &#8220;Birds of America&#8221; was being published.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Dorell</title>
		<link>http://conversationalreading.com/lorrie-moores-sad-decline/#comment-4417</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Dorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 02:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although “anonymous” is too meek to have an actual discussion, I’ve put together a very short critique of Lorrie Moore’s work.  Rather than suffer through “A Gate at the Stairs,” I reread “Real Estate,” one of the stories in “Birds of America.”  This particular story, which must have been written around 1998, had never been published previously.  I doubt it would have passed muster for “The New Yorker.”

Ruth, the protagonist, is a stock Moore character: her husband, Terence, is a serial cheater, and though she has already had one lung removed for cancer and undergone chemotherapy, she still smokes.  Of course, they never discuss anything substantative, and Ruth lingers on in unhappy silence.  In an attempt at pedantic word usage, Moore refers to a keloidal scar as a “ketoidal track.”  The plot includes a couple of absurdities that I assume are supposed to be entertaining.  An unknown fifteen-year-old boy named Tod illegally occupies Ruth’s attic unbeknownst to her - even though she and Terence have heard him clomping around for days.  There is a burglar named Noel who breaks into people’s homes while they’re in bed, makes them sing him songs, and transcribes the words before robbing them.  In the denouement, Ruth, who has been practicing shooting in order to kill unwanted crows in the yard, shoots and kills Noel.  Finally Ruth runs from the house barefoot, and, as in countless Lorrie Moore stories, there is a rush of evocative language that sympathetically represents what might simply be called clinical depression.

When I say that Moore’s work has declined in quality, it’s because she was writing the same sorts of things twenty years ago and has become formulaic.  Without reading it, I presume the failure of “A Gate at the Stairs” would be starker, with these unsatisfactory elements jumbled into a full-length novel that wasn’t edited properly.  I agree with Dan Green that her language can still be beautiful, but have hoped that by now she would be able to write something better: a book that comes to grips with more than a few artificially constructed vicissitudes of life, that doesn’t rely on overwrought emotional set pieces, and that appeals to mature, educated adults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although “anonymous” is too meek to have an actual discussion, I’ve put together a very short critique of Lorrie Moore’s work.  Rather than suffer through “A Gate at the Stairs,” I reread “Real Estate,” one of the stories in “Birds of America.”  This particular story, which must have been written around 1998, had never been published previously.  I doubt it would have passed muster for “The New Yorker.”</p>
<p>Ruth, the protagonist, is a stock Moore character: her husband, Terence, is a serial cheater, and though she has already had one lung removed for cancer and undergone chemotherapy, she still smokes.  Of course, they never discuss anything substantative, and Ruth lingers on in unhappy silence.  In an attempt at pedantic word usage, Moore refers to a keloidal scar as a “ketoidal track.”  The plot includes a couple of absurdities that I assume are supposed to be entertaining.  An unknown fifteen-year-old boy named Tod illegally occupies Ruth’s attic unbeknownst to her &#8211; even though she and Terence have heard him clomping around for days.  There is a burglar named Noel who breaks into people’s homes while they’re in bed, makes them sing him songs, and transcribes the words before robbing them.  In the denouement, Ruth, who has been practicing shooting in order to kill unwanted crows in the yard, shoots and kills Noel.  Finally Ruth runs from the house barefoot, and, as in countless Lorrie Moore stories, there is a rush of evocative language that sympathetically represents what might simply be called clinical depression.</p>
<p>When I say that Moore’s work has declined in quality, it’s because she was writing the same sorts of things twenty years ago and has become formulaic.  Without reading it, I presume the failure of “A Gate at the Stairs” would be starker, with these unsatisfactory elements jumbled into a full-length novel that wasn’t edited properly.  I agree with Dan Green that her language can still be beautiful, but have hoped that by now she would be able to write something better: a book that comes to grips with more than a few artificially constructed vicissitudes of life, that doesn’t rely on overwrought emotional set pieces, and that appeals to mature, educated adults.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Dorell</title>
		<link>http://conversationalreading.com/lorrie-moores-sad-decline/#comment-4416</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Dorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only can we read, but we also have the guts to use our actual names, unlike you with your empty criticism.  If you&#039;re open to discussion, I&#039;ll be glad to elaborate on my position and defend it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only can we read, but we also have the guts to use our actual names, unlike you with your empty criticism.  If you&#8217;re open to discussion, I&#8217;ll be glad to elaborate on my position and defend it.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://conversationalreading.com/lorrie-moores-sad-decline/#comment-4415</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys can&#039;t read.</description>
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		<title>By: Seth Clyde-Hamilton Gold</title>
		<link>http://conversationalreading.com/lorrie-moores-sad-decline/#comment-4414</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Clyde-Hamilton Gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree 100%.</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Dorell</title>
		<link>http://conversationalreading.com/lorrie-moores-sad-decline/#comment-4413</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Dorell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because of reviews like yours, I decided not to read A Gate at the Stairs.  Having followed Moore almost since the beginning of her career, I saw a decline in her writing developing many years ago, and this is the outcome I expected for the novel.  She still has an army of devotees, but one more disappointment will be enough to make them break ranks en masse.

I&#039;ve written elsewhere that the early landing of a tenure-track position at the University of Wisconsin has led to a dearth of experience in a life that was uneventful to begin with.  Some argue that struggling artists need their struggle assuaged.  I don’t agree, and Lorrie Moore is a case in point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because of reviews like yours, I decided not to read A Gate at the Stairs.  Having followed Moore almost since the beginning of her career, I saw a decline in her writing developing many years ago, and this is the outcome I expected for the novel.  She still has an army of devotees, but one more disappointment will be enough to make them break ranks en masse.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve written elsewhere that the early landing of a tenure-track position at the University of Wisconsin has led to a dearth of experience in a life that was uneventful to begin with.  Some argue that struggling artists need their struggle assuaged.  I don’t agree, and Lorrie Moore is a case in point.</p>
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