A rough transcript of Franzen’s remarks vis a vis Wallace’s cruise ship.
Franzen: David and I disagreed on that.
Franzen: Dave Wallace, yeah.
Remnick: So Wallace felt well —
Franzen: Yeah, cause he —
Remnick: He said it was okay to make up dialogue on a cruise ship?
Franzen: For instance, yeah. Uhhmmm…
Remnick: I’m heartbroken to hear it.
Franzen: I know, I know. No, those things didn’t actually happen. Umm, you notice he never published any non-fiction in your magazine.
Remnick: Not for want of trying but that’s another matter, but but…
Franzen: He would have had to, maybe he…
Remnick: He would have fell before the fact-checkers.
Franzen: I think the fact-checkers… and to me the uh fact-checkers, we, uh, I’m so afraid of fact checkers.
Remnick: Good. [laughs]